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		<title>By: The Hollosphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sounds like NVC, must be NVC &#8230;?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hollosphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sounds like NVC, must be NVC &#8230;?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] needs: &#8220;That doesn&#8217;t meet my need for&#8230;&#8221; which sounds to me like a vague demand, and is a form that also usually has some criticism wrapped up in it. In the above I hear a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] needs: &#8220;That doesn&#8217;t meet my need for&#8230;&#8221; which sounds to me like a vague demand, and is a form that also usually has some criticism wrapped up in it. In the above I hear a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Hollosphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Connecting with NVC Consciousness: It&#8217;s Not in the Words</title>
		<link>http://nvc-evolves.org/posts/vague-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hollosphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Connecting with NVC Consciousness: It&#8217;s Not in the Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] inspires compassion and what doesn&#8217;t and trust that feedback. You might enjoy Conal&#8217;s post on distinguishing needs from vague demands helpful. I encourage you to notice when you&#8217;re not fully inspired by your own or someone [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] inspires compassion and what doesn&#8217;t and trust that feedback. You might enjoy Conal&#8217;s post on distinguishing needs from vague demands helpful. I encourage you to notice when you&#8217;re not fully inspired by your own or someone [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bren Hardt</title>
		<link>http://nvc-evolves.org/posts/vague-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Bren Hardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conal: I am grateful to you for creating this blog and for the clarity it gives me about the 4 tools rather than 4 steps... my intention is to be more conscious of the distinction between true yummy connection and &quot;techniques&quot;.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conal: I am grateful to you for creating this blog and for the clarity it gives me about the 4 tools rather than 4 steps&#8230; my intention is to be more conscious of the distinction between true yummy connection and &#8220;techniques&#8221;.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: conal</title>
		<link>http://nvc-evolves.org/posts/vague-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>conal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fred.  Welcome, and thanks for contributing.  I agree with much of what you say, particularly &quot;Empathy when you can -Honesty when you can&#039;t&quot;.  Where I&#039;m not with you is the idea that &quot;vague demands&quot;, as I&#039;ve called them, are expressions of honesty in the consciousness of NVC, rather than cloaked moralism.  Since this issue has come up for me before and I&#039;d like to give it an airing, I&#039;ve written more on it in today&#039;s post, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;vague-demands-and-honesty/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vague demands and &quot;honesty&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fred.  Welcome, and thanks for contributing.  I agree with much of what you say, particularly &#8220;Empathy when you can -Honesty when you can&#8217;t&#8221;.  Where I&#8217;m not with you is the idea that &#8220;vague demands&#8221;, as I&#8217;ve called them, are expressions of honesty in the consciousness of NVC, rather than cloaked moralism.  Since this issue has come up for me before and I&#8217;d like to give it an airing, I&#8217;ve written more on it in today&#8217;s post, <em><a href="vague-demands-and-honesty/">Vague demands and &#8220;honesty&#8221;</a></em>.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hollosphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sounds like NVC, must be NVC ...?</title>
		<link>http://nvc-evolves.org/posts/vague-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hollosphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sounds like NVC, must be NVC ...?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What I read above is our same old habitual thinking cloaked a new formula for talking. This is an example of my least favorite form of expressing needs: &quot;That doesn&#039;t meet my need for...&quot; which sounds to me like a vague demand, and is a form that also usually has some criticism wrapped up in it. In the above I hear a statement that, while less obviously ouchy than the original statement, is outwardly directed and still rooted in judgment. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What I read above is our same old habitual thinking cloaked a new formula for talking. This is an example of my least favorite form of expressing needs: &#8220;That doesn&#8217;t meet my need for&#8230;&#8221; which sounds to me like a vague demand, and is a form that also usually has some criticism wrapped up in it. In the above I hear a statement that, while less obviously ouchy than the original statement, is outwardly directed and still rooted in judgment. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://nvc-evolves.org/posts/vague-demands/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously NVC used as a technique without the intention or state of presence behind it will backfire.
I speak from personal experience. What I have learned is: Empathy when you can -Honesty when you can&#039;t
&amp; we&#039;re speaking about the ability to enter into that precious state of presence.So when someone is saying that it doesn&#039;t meet their need for X they are already telling you have they have chosen option B,Honesty.When we make a statement like &quot;I do not believe that the speaker is really connected with his or her needs&quot; we are already in  jackal mode,because we are not connected with that person-we are connected to our thoughts about that person. At that point you can either speak to what&#039;s alive in you or better yet guess to whats alive in the other person</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously NVC used as a technique without the intention or state of presence behind it will backfire.<br />
I speak from personal experience. What I have learned is: Empathy when you can -Honesty when you can&#8217;t<br />
&amp; we&#8217;re speaking about the ability to enter into that precious state of presence.So when someone is saying that it doesn&#8217;t meet their need for X they are already telling you have they have chosen option B,Honesty.When we make a statement like &#8220;I do not believe that the speaker is really connected with his or her needs&#8221; we are already in  jackal mode,because we are not connected with that person-we are connected to our thoughts about that person. At that point you can either speak to what&#8217;s alive in you or better yet guess to whats alive in the other person</p>
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